“Marshall GREEN, Office talk. August 28, 1969”
National Security Archive
Marshall Green’s 1969 office memo captures the Nixon administration’s shift from Dulles‑era rigidity to a more intuitive, personality‑driven Asian policy.
Source: “Marshall GREEN, Office talk. August 28, 1969” Date: Aug 28, 1969 Collection: The Murrey Marder Papers at the National Security Archive Jul 20, 2017
Editorial Analysis
Original analysis by the DriftSeas editorial desk. The complete primary-source document, transcribed from the National Security Archive scan, appears in full below.
A Candid Memo From the Heart of the Nixon Administration
The brief office‑talk note dated August 28 1969 is a reminder that high‑level foreign‑policy debates often unfolded in informal, hallway‑style conversations rather than in polished memoranda. Written by Marshall Green, the U.S. ambassador to Indonesia and a veteran of the State Department’s Asian desk, the document records his assessment of newly appointed Assistant Secretary of State for East Asian and Pacific Affairs William P. Rogers. Green’s appraisal—“open‑minded, no frozen positions, very good questioner…operates by ‘intuition’”—captures a moment when the Nixon administration was deliberately reshaping its approach to Asia after the rigid, Cold‑War orthodoxy of the Dulles era.
The memo was produced during a transitional period in Washington’s Asia policy. In early 1969, President Nixon had just inaugurated his first term, and his National Security Adviser, Henry Kissinger, was beginning to consolidate a “Nixon shop” that blended diplomatic, military, and political inputs under the president’s direct control. Green’s remarks about the “state‑White House relationship” echo the broader power shift: Kissinger’s brilliance was acknowledged, but ultimate authority rested with Nixon, who considered himself an “authority on Asia.” The note therefore illustrates how senior diplomats were being asked to adapt to a more personality‑driven decision‑making environment, where personal rapport with the president could outweigh institutional expertise.
The Rogers Factor and the Search for a New Style
Rogers, a former Attorney General and close confidant of Nixon, arrived in the State Department with a reputation for sharp questioning and a disdain for repetition. Green notes that Rogers “doesn’t want to be told anything twice” and that he “resents” contradictory accounts, demanding explanations for discrepancies. This insistence on clarity and his willingness to “draw people out” were seen as assets in a region where the United States had long relied on a grim, bureaucratic posture. Green specifically praises Rogers for his handling of Chiang Kai‑shek, suggesting that personal style could compensate for a lack of deep regional experience.
The memo also hints at internal tensions. Green mentions irritation over the “sweeping demand for NSC papers,” a reference to the expanding National Security Council bureaucracy that often clashed with State Department processes. Yet he reassures that the issue is being resolved, indicating a pragmatic acceptance of the new administrative order.
Institutional Memory and the Legacy of Dulles
Green’s nostalgic comparison with past Secretaries of State—Harriman, Bowles, Dulles—serves a dual purpose. First, it situates the current administration within a lineage of personalities who shaped policy from the “Seventh floor” of the State Department. Second, it underscores a shift from the “grim” posture of the 1950s, when senior officials like Dulles would make decisions in isolation and merely seek Eisenhower’s rubber‑stamp approval. By contrast, Green perceives a more harmonious interaction between the State Department and the White House, even if the timing of meetings has moved to afternoons to accommodate the “Western White House operation.”
Why the Memo Still Matters
Although terse, the document is a valuable barometer of how senior diplomats perceived the Nixon‑Kissinger overhaul of Asian policy. It reveals that the administration’s push for a more intuitive, personality‑driven style was not universally accepted but was nonetheless seen as a necessary corrective to the “frozen” policies of the previous decade. The memo also foreshadows later frictions that would erupt over the secret bombing of Cambodia and the Nixon administration’s handling of the Vietnam War—issues where the balance between presidential authority and diplomatic expertise would become starkly contested.
For historians, Green’s observations provide a ground‑level view of the internal recalibrations that accompanied the broader strategic pivot toward détente and the opening to China. They remind us that policy shifts are as much about the temperament of individual officials as they are about grand geopolitical calculations. In an era when declassified archives continue to illuminate the personal dynamics behind Cold‑War decisions, this office‑talk note adds a nuanced layer to our understanding of how the Nixon administration sought—and sometimes struggled—to rewrite the rules of engagement in Asia.
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Marshall GREEN. Office talk. Aug. 28, 1969
Very high on Rogers (which is why McCloskey urged talking to him). Why? Claims he is open minded, no frozen positions, very good questioner, operates by "intuition" which serves him well even though he lacks experience. "He draws people out." No "grim" posture as predecessors had; has good sense of humor; is non-doctrinaire. This may be abrasive for some people, but I like it, and it went down well with leaders in Asia. He did best job of drawing out Chiang Kai-shek that anyone could do.
Does he know the background? Marshall started to say yes, and I looked at him, and then he conceded well, alright, he does lack the background and I imagine he does something resent fact that other people have the background which he lacks. But he makes up for it in style, and style is vitally important. We have always been too grim to about Asia; we have acted as if nothing has changed since the Dulles era. We have been frozen on all kinds of things, passports, trade, etc. And Rogers comes along with a fresh look like a breath of fresh air. There are plenty of people who know the details for him to draw on.
One thing about him, he doesn't want to be told anything twice. He resents that and tells you so. Also, if he gets conflicting accounts, w he wants to know why.
State-White House relationship: Sure Kissinger is very bright and able. But its wrong to call it "the Kissinger shop." X It's "the Nixon shop." Nixon regards himself as quite an authority on Asia. You can be sure Kissinger is doing nothing that Nixon doesn't want done. Nixon is making foreign policy. If the State Department is going to be "a service organization," why not? What's wrong with that?
Sure there are some irritations. This sweeping demand for NSC papers. But we're in the process of resolving that problem; it will be solved soon.
Every Secretary of State operates somewhat differently, and every President operates somewhat differently. Relations on the Seventh floor are better now than I've ever seen them. You know what it has been in the past. When Harriman was up there he'd make his mind up about something and no one could budge him. He had his able qualities of course. Then there was Bowles for a while, and others...you know how it was. Now the Seventh floor is acting in harmony; you can feel that in the dept.
(In an aside on Dulles): Dulles used to sit there, with the Joint Chiefs and others, and make major decisions, and then reach over, telephone Eisenhower, and ask if he had any objections. Eisenhower would say, "No, of course not, Foster. But don't you think you are working too hard? When are you going to take a vacation."
G. noted that Western White House operation with its time factor has required unusual switch to doing most State-W.House business in the afternoons, instead of mornings.
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